Elemental Shaman Best In Slot

Comment by Gabock

I'm a bit confused regarding Elemental Equilibrium. From what I have read (on other WowHead guides), the talent Echoing Shock acts as an elemental spell which should activate the legendary immediately. And the talent having 30 secs cooldown fits perfectly with the legendary cooldown (Or Elemental Blast with 12 secs). Meaning you pretty much have 15% more damage 1/3 of the time on your rotation.
Even if what I read is wrong, Icefury which is the recommended talent for best dps (don't really like it myself, too many spells to keep track of) also has a 30 secs cooldown and should give the same effect. Didn't do any studies and don't have beta access, but I'd say +15% damage from all spells should give much more dps than +20% on a single spell with cast time shaved off. Am I missing something?

Comment by AVBrize

But the question is which slot it should be used at? shoulder? helm? bracer? that was the question I came to find an answer to but the guide did not include that. Optimally we should craft a legendary for our slot with the worst stats right? WRT that here is what I think:
Since best single target dmg in raid stats are haste and versitality (0.5 & 0.3 weight points respectively), and we should make something that excludue items with those stats. That leaves us with 6 items from the raid (gloves crit/haste, helm haste/mastery, feet crit/mastery, bracers crit/mastery, shoulder versitality/mastery). Crit and mastery are our worst stats possible for single target dmg in raid (0.1 weight points each) this leaves us with only feet & bracer slots. They might be the best possible slots to craft.
This is the deduction I came up with including the items from the raid drops. This doesn't include the mythic+ dungeon drops, they don't get titanforged anymore but they might be viable options if the ilvl is high enough (e.g.: Spires have a haste versitality bracer).
Considered both of the ring slots aswell but since both raid drop rings give massive haste, I think I'll exlude them.

Comment by JJC8623

Question about the order:
Like many people, I was able to achieve the 1520 Soul Ash soft cap for Week 2. I currently have the recipe for Elemental Equilibrium, but this guide says not to make it.
I don't have either of the recommended recipes:
Windspeaker's Lava Resurgence (world boss, not sure what order)
Skybreaker's Fiery Demise (Last raid boss)
Echoes of Great Sundering (Muzhala?)
Should I just hoard my Soul Ash until I am able to get one of the recipes above, or just go ahead and make the Elemental Equilibrium?

Comment by aetrius

I just did Castle Natharia and Elemental Equilibrium outperformed the Echoes of Great Sundering by a 3.1 K (DPS) vs 2.2 K (DPS). The procs without large mobs to trigger maelstrom was night and day on a boss fight.
Mythic plus seems to benefit greater on the Echoes due to chain lightning triggering a ton of maelstrom.
Just a Shaman's point of view...
I could see the Windspeaker's Lava Resurgence being better than both but I'll craft that this weekend and test it out.

Comment by Kukkaspoika

Bit of a confusing read seeing as Elemental Equilibrium is BiS for Ele Shaman PvP and has near 100% uptime.

Comment by Gabock

I'm a bit confused regarding Elemental Equilibrium. From what I have read (on other WowHead guides), the talent Echoing Shock acts as an elemental spell which should activate the legendary immediately. And the talent having 30 secs cooldown fits perfectly with the legendary cooldown (Or Elemental Blast with 12 secs). Meaning you pretty much have 15% more damage 1/3 of the time on your rotation.
Even if what I read is wrong, Icefury which is the recommended talent for best dps (don't really like it myself, too many spells to keep track of) also has a 30 secs cooldown and should give the same effect. Didn't do any studies and don't have beta access, but I'd say +15% damage from all spells should give much more dps than +20% on a single spell with cast time shaved off. Am I missing something?

Comment by AVBrize

But the question is which slot it should be used at? shoulder? helm? bracer? that was the question I came to find an answer to but the guide did not include that. Optimally we should craft a legendary for our slot with the worst stats right? WRT that here is what I think:
Since best single target dmg in raid stats are haste and versitality (0.5 & 0.3 weight points respectively), and we should make something that excludue items with those stats. That leaves us with 6 items from the raid (gloves crit/haste, helm haste/mastery, feet crit/mastery, bracers crit/mastery, shoulder versitality/mastery). Crit and mastery are our worst stats possible for single target dmg in raid (0.1 weight points each) this leaves us with only feet & bracer slots. They might be the best possible slots to craft.
This is the deduction I came up with including the items from the raid drops. This doesn't include the mythic+ dungeon drops, they don't get titanforged anymore but they might be viable options if the ilvl is high enough (e.g.: Spires have a haste versitality bracer).
Considered both of the ring slots aswell but since both raid drop rings give massive haste, I think I'll exlude them.

Comment by JJC8623

Question about the order:
Like many people, I was able to achieve the 1520 Soul Ash soft cap for Week 2. I currently have the recipe for Elemental Equilibrium, but this guide says not to make it.
I don't have either of the recommended recipes:
Windspeaker's Lava Resurgence (world boss, not sure what order)
Skybreaker's Fiery Demise (Last raid boss)
Echoes of Great Sundering (Muzhala?)
Should I just hoard my Soul Ash until I am able to get one of the recipes above, or just go ahead and make the Elemental Equilibrium?

Comment by aetrius

I just did Castle Natharia and Elemental Equilibrium outperformed the Echoes of Great Sundering by a 3.1 K (DPS) vs 2.2 K (DPS). The procs without large mobs to trigger maelstrom was night and day on a boss fight.
Mythic plus seems to benefit greater on the Echoes due to chain lightning triggering a ton of maelstrom.
Just a Shaman's point of view...
I could see the Windspeaker's Lava Resurgence being better than both but I'll craft that this weekend and test it out.

Comment by Kukkaspoika

Bit of a confusing read seeing as Elemental Equilibrium is BiS for Ele Shaman PvP and has near 100% uptime.